21/06/19
What impact is digitalization having on people and their work? What do we mean when we say that people will have to work more and more âdigitallyâ? What specific skills and behaviour will that require? For temporary employment and secondment companies, these are particularly important themes that affect not just their own organisation but also the workers and clients they mediate between. Jeroen Zwinkels became managing director of ManpowerGroup Netherlands at the beginning of 2019. In this interview he clarifies the impact of digitalization on people and their work. âYou canât be the only successful one in an ecosystem while the rest are not. Thatâll only work for a short time, at most.â
âItâs a matter that sets about 30% of my agenda, but itâs by no means the leading aspect. Itâs a bit of a risky statement, but the theme of digitalization sometimes has some features of the Internet hype in the late 1990s. Back then, just having a website counted as a business model. Almost the same now applies to digitalization. But digitalization isnât a cure-all or an end in itself. Many of todayâs resources are already digital and despite digitalization itâs still about matching people and jobs. So if you ask me whether digitalization is important, then my answer is yes. But if you ask whether we should be confused by it, then definitely not.â
âWe need to distinguish between what it means, internally, for our way of working and, externally, how it will affect the environment within which we operate. Digitalization enables us to improve our services and create greater value. Perhaps the biggest danger of digitalization is that people will blindly follow what the system tells them, for example when an algorithm makes a prediction about the suitability of a candidate. Weâre therefore challenging our people to continue to think critically â even more than before. If you fail to do so, you run the risk of becoming too far removed from your core process, which has become far less easy to comprehend thanks to automation and digitalization. We also want our people to constantly think about how processes can be adjusted and improved. In the past, that involved discussions between consultants; basically, it was entirely analogue. Things have become very different now that processes have been defined within digital systems. Process improvements mustnât come just from smart techies in the background; they need to be fed by the market.â
âThatâs right, but thatâs becoming rather different. In the past you had a lot of contacts with clients and candidates about what were often routine administrative matters. You built up the relationship based on all those contacts. Automation and digitalization have largely done away with those contacts. So digitalization offers enormous opportunities: thereâs scope for devoting more time and attention to the real connection with the client or the candidate. Thereâs also a great need for this within both groups, which is why âsoft skillsâ â the social and interpersonal skills needed to make that connection real â are becoming increasingly important. Thatâs why we devote a great deal of time and attention to them in our internal training programme.â
âThis brings us to the effects on the environment within which we work. In a lot of the sectors where we bring clients and candidates together, digitalization has led to a rapidly widening skills gap. It means that more and different skills are required in order to remain successful in a given job, so the need for retraining and refresher training is therefore increasing. There are groups within society that are having to pay the price for that. People who arenât able to acquire those new skills find themselves marginalised and see their distance to the labour market increasing. Society â including government, companies, employees, and trade unions â has a moral duty to create a safety net for those people.â
âThere are three things weâre doing. We take people with poor job prospects and get them âjob readyâ. Last year, together with JINC, we helped thousands of young people. Itâs not about training but about how to take a job interview, for example. We also do a lot in the way of retraining and refresher training. We offer training courses for tens of thousands of people, ranging from short online courses to training programmes lasting a year. These are for people who are still equipped to perform a certain role, but who â in our clientsâ and our own view â need to take a course if they want to remain employable. Thatâs a requirement in more and more professions. Finally, weâre committed to inclusiveness: gender equality and participation by women, refugees, and migrant workers. We believe that everyone who is entitled to live in the Netherlands has the right to participate in the labour market.â
âIt does indeed offer opportunities, but if you donât organise anything to deal with the situation, it is in fact a downside. We really are doing this because we consider it to be our moral duty. âWe care, we share, we dareâ â those are the values formulated 71 years ago by the founder of Manpower in America. And as part of society we therefore also have a social role to play.â
âIâm not a believer in a clearly delineated system of responsibilities, but I am a great believer in mutual dependence. I think thatâs more appropriate for the times we live in. I think that we as Manpower should demonstrate leadership in this regard, but if there are parties who donât see a role for themselves⌠well, âthe caravan moves onâ, as they say. We arenât constructing a new social model, but if we do this properly then Dutch society will benefit greatly. For us, itâs also a question of what the bottom line is, but in an ecosystem full of interdependencies, you canât be the only successful one while the rest are not. Thatâll only work for a short time, at most.â
âWeâre talking to clients about the short term, but especially about the long term. Most clients do see that their playing field is changing as a result of globalisation, digitalization, and new entrants, and they realise that they need to be constantly on the ball about how they can continue to add value. That also means that theyâre asking themselves whether theyâll still be successful in two yearsâ time with the people they currently employ. Take, for example, couriers who donât just deliver a package but also install or assemble the contents on site or utilise the customer contact in some other way so as to add value. Or process operators who need to be able to oversee more and more advanced production lines and communicate about them with people from different disciplines. Those are the kinds of specific things weâre asked about. But thereâs also a growing feeling among employees that they need to have greater control over their career. They are increasingly realising that once they have a job they canât just rest on their laurels and assume that theyâll be OK for the next five years.â
âFor example, weâre developing customised training courses in collaboration with the client. Or we may see a pattern in the labour market and invest in training candidates ourselves because we know that we can subsequently deploy them. In the autumn, weâll be starting a project in the Netherlands that we already have in some other countries. Together with three to five major clients, we aim to create an ecosystem with which we can build a curriculum together, often for somewhat more demanding training courses. Those clients will make specialists, machines, space, etc. available, with the costs being shared between the clients, the candidates, and Manpower. Weâre already doing that in Italy in the âCar Valleyâ around Modena, where weâre collaborating with Ferrari, Bosch, and Microsoft to train people in such things as processing carbon fibre.â
"In an ecosystem full of interdependencies, you canât be the only successful one while the rest are not."
âOur ultimate goal is to help people and companies get the best out of themselves. In the case of companies, we do that by thinking along with them about which people they will need in the future and what we should do together on the labour market so as to meet that need. In the case of candidates and our own people, itâs all about their continuing to develop. But of course itâs not enough to just assert that people need to develop new competencies and that they need to work on their employability. Itâs also a matter of providing leadership. Thatâs where mutual dependence reappears. Weâll have to help our people in that regard.â
It definitely applies to me too! My role is mainly about setting the pace and indicating the urgency. Basically, itâs about connecting the long term with what we need to do today and tomorrow. In the past, if things werenât running smoothly you might have waited to see how they would develop in the next quarter, but thatâs no longer possible. Developments are happening so quickly; not addressing something immediately means by definition that youâre going to lag behind. Thatâs why I expect my management team to raise issues that we need to change right away â immediately! Thereâs a good reason why various smaller, specialised parties in this sector are growing far faster than the big boys â itâs because those smaller parties are a lot more âagileâ. Fortunately, our company displays a great deal of creativity, agility, and willingness to change and improve. We intend making full use of those qualities in the years ahead.â